Comments on: Derek Webb’s ‘Stockholm Syndrome’: Conflict and controversy http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/ digressing one cup at a time Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:35:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: bdr http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-42 bdr Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:11:30 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-42 Webb has stated himself that the song "Freddie Please" is not based on the description you mention above. It's in reference to Fred Phelps, the famously anti-gay "preacher." Just FYI. I appreciate his willingness to bring up this unpopular but very culturally relevant issue. Webb has stated himself that the song "Freddie Please" is not based on the description you mention above. It's in reference to Fred Phelps, the famously anti-gay "preacher." Just FYI. I appreciate his willingness to bring up this unpopular but very culturally relevant issue.

]]> By: Joy http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Joy Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:21:25 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-41 Thank you for pointing out the relationship to Campolo's quote using the word "damn" and Webb's song using the word "shit." Interestingly, that explanation still doesn't appear to help some understand. It's far easier to employ selective exposure and shut ourselves off to messages that don't fit our pre-defined outlook on life. I found your blog after hearing the song. I wanted to learn more. I don't find the song controversial. I find it an honest, frustrated expression of what he feels. You offered the kind of information that helped me start to understand why this song has the word "controversy" tied to it. Still, his underlying message, I feel, should not be controversial at all. Thank you for pointing out the relationship to Campolo's quote using the word "damn" and Webb's song using the word "shit." Interestingly, that explanation still doesn't appear to help some understand. It's far easier to employ selective exposure and shut ourselves off to messages that don't fit our pre-defined outlook on life.

I found your blog after hearing the song. I wanted to learn more. I don't find the song controversial. I find it an honest, frustrated expression of what he feels. You offered the kind of information that helped me start to understand why this song has the word "controversy" tied to it. Still, his underlying message, I feel, should not be controversial at all.

]]> By: Alyssa http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Alyssa Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:55:12 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-40 I understand where he's coming from... However, I don't understand why he's also being hypocritical and using a curse word to make a point. I deleted the song as soon as I heard the word, and I didn't even know what the song was about. I'm sorry, I would have respected him and possibly even admired his approach--and taken a stand with him--but I've lost all that potential respect for him since his lack of a decent choice with using that kind of noun. Want to talk down to Christians and hope they're moved? Speak their language. I understand where he's coming from…

However, I don't understand why he's also being hypocritical and using a curse word to make a point. I deleted the song as soon as I heard the word, and I didn't even know what the song was about. I'm sorry, I would have respected him and possibly even admired his approach–and taken a stand with him–but I've lost all that potential respect for him since his lack of a decent choice with using that kind of noun.

Want to talk down to Christians and hope they're moved? Speak their language.

]]> By: Zara http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Zara Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:09:56 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-39 I'm not a Christian but I have so much respect for Christian musicians like Derek Webb. They are not afraid to admit their fault and they are not afraid to do the greatest - that is, love (agape, charitas). A perfect example for this humility (and one of my favorite songs) is "Wedding Dress"! Ah, amazing! Peace I'm not a Christian but I have so much respect for Christian musicians like Derek Webb. They are not afraid to admit their fault and they are not afraid to do the greatest – that is, love (agape, charitas). A perfect example for this humility (and one of my favorite songs) is "Wedding Dress"! Ah, amazing!

Peace

]]> By: Marion http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Marion Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:20:38 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-38 As a non-Christian who enjoys Mr. Webb's music, it seems as if the controversy surrounding his work is a reflection of the struggle a contradictory voice has being heard amid Christian orthodoxy. Were he not confrontational, his ideas wouldn't provoke conversation, they'd simply be ignored. He appeals to me as a provocateur who seeks to engender thought and dialogue rather than an ideologue who simply seeks controversy. As a non-Christian who enjoys Mr. Webb's music, it seems as if the controversy surrounding his work is a reflection of the struggle a contradictory voice has being heard amid Christian orthodoxy. Were he not confrontational, his ideas wouldn't provoke conversation, they'd simply be ignored. He appeals to me as a provocateur who seeks to engender thought and dialogue rather than an ideologue who simply seeks controversy.

]]> By: Yamel http://www.tindog.com/2009/07/17/derek-webbs-stockholm-syndrome-conflict-and-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Yamel Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:30:09 +0000 http://www.tindog.com/?p=1824#comment-37 I've always loved Derek's work, all his songs since Caedmons Call. I love him! He is a controversial man, he will always be that way. He had other interests before and I think was more prudent before because he was in a band, but now he has nothing to lose. I share his point of view most of the time and love him for being bold and just defending what he believes in, even if people hate him for it! I just love that someone has an opinion about what goes on in church today and writes songs about it, even if people don't buy his albums and don't use his songs for amusement a Sunday afternoon. There has to be Christians who talk about sexuality and politics and social issues, We sometimes live ignoring that these things exist. I Love his new music, I think after doing acoustic in his older work and doing the 'The Ringing Bell' with a retro rock sound, this is a step forward in his music, I still love the folk/acoustic/percussion sound, but this is interesting too! I've been living in Europe for the last 9 months and had No clue about this new stuff or the controversy, I just found out and your article is the first one I read! I haven't heard the album or anything! I think I'm going to write about it myself when I listen to it! Adios! I've always loved Derek's work, all his songs since Caedmons Call. I love him! He is a controversial man, he will always be that way. He had other interests before and I think was more prudent before because he was in a band, but now he has nothing to lose. I share his point of view most of the time and love him for being bold and just defending what he believes in, even if people hate him for it! I just love that someone has an opinion about what goes on in church today and writes songs about it, even if people don't buy his albums and don't use his songs for amusement a Sunday afternoon. There has to be Christians who talk about sexuality and politics and social issues, We sometimes live ignoring that these things exist.
I Love his new music, I think after doing acoustic in his older work and doing the 'The Ringing Bell' with a retro rock sound, this is a step forward in his music, I still love the folk/acoustic/percussion sound, but this is interesting too!
I've been living in Europe for the last 9 months and had No clue about this new stuff or the controversy, I just found out and your article is the first one I read! I haven't heard the album or anything! I think I'm going to write about it myself when I listen to it!

Adios!

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